The JFK Plot and Global Terrorism June 8, 2007
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“The JFK plot is interesting for several reasons. The attack not only illustrates the jihadi communities’ continuing fascination with aviation, but it also bolsters particular emerging trends in global terrorism while challenging others.First, this group appears to conform to the common, self radicalized, supported and operationalized cells that are all too common across the world. While it is possible that an al-Qaida connection could emerge, it is very unlikely. This appears to be a totally independent operation, conforming to the existing trends…” (Click here)
Fort Dix Plot News Articles June 7, 2007
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Terror cell captured in New Jersey
05/09/07 “The CW, following his infiltration of the Duka Organization, recorded numerous conversations with the defendants, in which they discussed tactics, surveillance and plans for attacking U.S. military bases and killing soldiers, radical theology and hatred of America and support of jihad.” (Click here)
Fort Dix “dodged a bullet”, agent says
05/09/07 ““Today we dodged a bullet. In fact, when you look at the type of weapons that this group was trying to purchase, we may have dodged a lot of bullets,” said FBI agent J.P. Weis. “We had a group that was forming a platoon to take on an army. They identified their target, they did their reconnaissance. They had maps. And they were in the process of buying weapons. Luckily, we were able to stop that.”” (Click here)
Six charged in plot to atack Fort Dix
05/09/07 “Five men — all foreign-born and described as “radical Islamists” by federal authorities — allegedly trained at a shooting range in Pennsylvania’s Pocono Mountains to kill “as many soldiers as possible” at the historic Army base 25 miles east of Philadelphia. A sixth man was charged with helping them obtain illegal weapons.” (Click here)
Brothers charged in terror plot lived illegally in U.S. for 23 years
05/09/07 “Three brothers charged in the alleged Fort Dix terror plot have been living illegally in the U.S. for more than 23 years and were accepted as Americans by neighbors and friends who had no idea they would scheme to attack military bases and slaughter GIs.” (Click here)
NY Times: Fort Dix jihadis nice religious boys
05/09/07 “PHILADELPHIA, May 9 — The three Duka brothers — Eljvir, Shain and Dritan — not only prayed here at the Al Aqsa Islamic Center, but also recently began repairing its roof.” (Click here)
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters?
05/10/07 “These were not the actions of a terrorist but of a paid FBI informant who helped bring down an alleged plot by six Muslim men to massacre U.S. soldiers at New Jersey’s Fort Dix… It is an argument — entrapment — that has been made in other terrorism cases, and one that has failed miserably in this post-Sept. 11 era… “I never in my wildest dreams imagined what they’ve been accused of,” said Ismail Badat, trustee of the Islamic Center of South Jersey in Palmyra, where the Duka brothers worshipped.” (Click here)
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public
05/29/07 “In about a month, an FBI informant had infiltrated the alleged plotters. Authorities said they made the arrests just as the suspects were trying to buy fully automatic weapons in a buy facilitated an FBI informant.” (Click here)
Fort Dix tipster shurgs off ‘hero’ title
05/29/07 “The tipster responsible for helping authorities thwart a possible terrorist attack on a U.S. military base said Tuesday he experienced a “moral dilemma” over whether to report what he had seen. Authorities said the tape showed 10 young men shooting at a practice range and shouting in Arabic, “Allahu Akbar” — “God is great.”” (Click here)
Sometimes, someone has to speak up
06/03/07 “A joke? A group of amateur actors? “We, as citizens, have a duty for our country to speak up if we see something that needs to be reported,” Morgenstern told CNN in one of several media interviews last week. How refreshing. How fundamentally pure. A “duty” to “speak up.”” (Click here)
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix
06/06/07 “Prosecutors had charged the men last month with planning the attack, which was to use mortars, rocket-propelled grenades and guns. The assault never took place.” (Click here)
S.J. terror suspects indicted
06/06/07 “Duka, his two brothers Dritan and Shain Duka, all illegal immigrants living in Cherry Hill; along with Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, also of Cherry Hill; and Serdar Tatar of Philadelphia, were charged with conspiring to kill American military personnel. The Duka brothers are also charged with possession of weapons by illegal immigrants.” (Click here)
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot
06/06/07 “The suspects, all foreign-born and in their 20s, have been held without bail in a federal detention center since they were arrested May 7. They will be able to enter pleas at an arraignment this week or next.” (Click here)
6 in Fort Dix case plead not guilty
06/15/07 “The trial will take months to prepare because jury selection for such a high-profile case could be difficult and because the defense lawyers will need to review a mountain of evidence, including more than 1,000 audio-taped conversations, the judge said.” (Click here)
Prosecutors as for anonymous jury in Fort Dix 6 case
07/09/07 “In a separate motion Monday prosecutors asked the judge to designate the prosecution a “complex case” and waive the rule that the trial begin within 70 days of the men’s June 5 indictment.” (Click here)
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury
07/10/07 “In a motion filed Monday, the U.S. attorney’s office said potential jurors might fear for their safety because of the nature of the charges and the international publicity around the case.” (Click here)
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation
08/10/07 “The lawyers for the men say they cannot move so fast. The reason: The government’s voluminous evidence, much of which must be translated from Arabic and Albanian… Court filings have revealed that the government has about 200 hours of tapes of conversations involving the suspects and two government informants. About half are in English, with 40 hours in Albanian and 60 in Arabic. Some conversations use multiple languages. (Click here)
Jury in Fort Dix Plot to be Anonymous
09/06/07 “CAMDEN, N.J. (AP) — An anonymous jury will hear the case of six men accused of plotting to attack soldiers at Fort Dix, a federal judge ruled Thursday.
U.S. District Judge Robert B. Kugler agreed with prosecutors’ concerns that jurors could be intimidated because of the nature of the charges and the possibility the media would pursue jurors if their names were released. He rejected defense complaints that such a jury would be biased.” (Click here)
Serdar Tatar June 7, 2007
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Serdar Tatar, 23, of Philadelphia, was born in Turkey. Tatar is legally residing in the U.S. His last known employment was at a 7-Eleven in Philadelphia.
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Related articles:
Attack on Fort Dix
Fort Dix “doged a bullet,” agent says – 05/09/07
Six charged in plot to attack Fort Dix – 05/09/07
Terror cell captured in New Jersey – 05/09/07
A case for entrapment?
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters? – 05/10/07
Informant speaks out
Fort Dix tipster shrugs off ‘hero’ title – 05/29/07
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public – 05/29/07
Sometimes, someone has to speak up – 06/03/07
Serdar Tatar charged
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix – 06/06/07
S.J. terror suspects indicted – 06/06/07
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot – 06/06/07
Plead not guilty??!
6 in Fort dix case plead not guilty – 06/15/07
Prosecutors ask for anonymous jury in For Dix 6 case – 07/09/07
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury – 07/10/07
No speedy trial! New trial date set.
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation – 08/10/07
Jury will be anonymous
Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer June 7, 2007
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Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22, of Cherry Hill, N.J. He was born in Jordan, is a U.S. citizen, and is employed as a taxicab driver in Philadelphia.
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Related articles:
Attack on Fort Dix
Fort Dix “doged a bullet,” agent says – 05/09/07
Six charged in plot to attack Fort Dix – 05/09/07
Terror cell captured in New Jersey – 05/09/07
A case for entrapment?
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters? – 05/10/07
Informant speaks out
Fort Dix tipster shrugs off ‘hero’ title – 05/29/07
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public – 05/29/07
Sometimes, someone has to speak up – 06/03/07
Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer charged
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix – 06/06/07
S.J. terror suspects indicted – 06/06/07
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot – 06/06/07
Plead not guilty??!
6 in Fort dix case plead not guilty – 06/15/07
Prosecutors ask for anonymous jury in For Dix 6 case – 07/09/07
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury – 07/10/07
No speedy trial! New trial date set.
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation – 08/10/07
Jury will be anonymous
Dritan Duka June 7, 2007
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Dritan Duka, 28, of Cherry Hill, also goes by “Distan Duka,” “Anthony Duka” and “Tony Duka.” He was born in the former Yugoslavia, is illegally residing in the U.S. and operates Colonial Roofing and National Roofing along with his brothers, Eljvir and Shain Duka. (All of the Dukas charged are brothers.)
The Duka brothers and Abdullahu are ethnic Albanians born in the former Yugoslavia.
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Related articles:
Attack on Fort Dix
Fort Dix “doged a bullet,” agent says – 05/09/07
Six charged in plot to attack Fort Dix – 05/09/07
Terror cell captured in New Jersey – 05/09/07
Nice religious jihadi wannabees…
NY Times: For Dix jihadis nice religious boys – 05/09/07
In the U.S. illegally
Brothers charged in terror plot in U.S. illegally for 23 years – 05/09/07
A case for entrapment?
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters? – 05/10/07
Informant speaks out
Fort Dix tipster shrugs off ‘hero’ title – 05/29/07
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public – 05/29/07
Sometimes, someone has to speak up – 06/03/07
Dritan Duka charged
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix – 06/06/07
S.J. terror suspects indicted – 06/06/07
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot – 06/06/07
Plead not guilty??!
6 in Fort dix case plead not guilty – 06/15/07
Prosecutors ask for anonymous jury in For Dix 6 case – 07/09/07
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury – 07/10/07
No speedy trial! New trial date set.
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation – 08/10/07
Jury will be anonymous
Shain Duka June 7, 2007
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Shain Duka, 26, who resides at the same address as Eljvir Duka in Cherry Hill, also goes by “Shaheen,” was born in the former Yugoslavia. Shain Duka is illegally living in the U.S. and helps operate Colonial Roofing and National Roofing.
The Duka brothers and Abdullahu are ethnic Albanians born in the former Yugoslavia.
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Related articles:
Attack on Fort Dix
Fort Dix “doged a bullet,” agent says – 05/09/07
Six charged in plot to attack Fort Dix – 05/09/07
Terror cell captured in New Jersey – 05/09/07
Nice religious jihadi wannabees…
NY Times: For Dix jihadis nice religious boys – 05/09/07
In the U.S. illegally
Brothers charged in terror plot in U.S. illegally for 23 years – 05/09/07
A case for entrapment?
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters? – 05/10/07
Informant speaks out
Fort Dix tipster shrugs off ‘hero’ title – 05/29/07
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public – 05/29/07
Sometimes, someone has to speak up – 06/03/07
Shain Duka charged
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix – 06/06/07
S.J. terror suspects indicted – 06/06/07
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot – 06/06/07
Plead not guilty??!
6 in Fort dix case plead not guilty – 06/15/07
Prosecutors ask for anonymous jury in For Dix 6 case – 07/09/07
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury – 07/10/07
No speedy trial! New trial date set.
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation – 08/10/07
Jury will be anonymous
Eljvir Duka June 7, 2007
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Eljvir Duka, 23, of Cherry Hill, also goes by “Elvis Duka” and “Sulayman,” was born in the former Yugoslavia. Duka is illegally residing in the U.S. and operates businesses known as Qadr. Inc., Colonial Roofing and National Roofing, all of which list business addresses the same as his residence.
The Duka brothers and Abdullahu are ethnic Albanians born in the former Yugoslavia.
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Related articles:
Attack on Fort Dix
Fort Dix “doged a bullet,” agent says – 05/09/07
Six charged in plot to attack Fort Dix – 05/09/07
Terror cell captured in New Jersey – 05/09/07
Nice religious jihadi wannabees…
NY Times: For Dix jihadis nice religious boys – 05/09/07
In the U.S. illegally
Brothers charged in terror plot in U.S. illegally for 23 years – 05/09/07
A case for entrapment?
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters? – 05/10/07
Informant speaks out
Fort Dix tipster shrugs off ‘hero’ title – 05/29/07
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public – 05/29/07
Sometimes, someone has to speak up – 06/03/07
Eljvir Duka charged
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix – 06/06/07
S.J. terror suspects indicted – 06/06/07
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot – 06/06/07
Plead not guilty??!
6 in Fort dix case plead not guilty – 06/15/07
Prosecutors ask for anonymous jury in For Dix 6 case – 07/09/07
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury – 07/10/07
No speedy trial! New trial date set.
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation – 08/10/07
Jury will be anonymous
Agron Abdullahu June 7, 2007
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Agron Abdullahu, 24, of Buena Vista Township, Atlantic County, N.J., was born in the former Yugoslavia. Abdullahu is legally residing in the U.S. and is employed at a Shop-Rite supermarket.
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Related articles:
Attack on Fort Dix
Fort Dix “doged a bullet,” agent says – 05/09/07
Six charged in plot to attack Fort Dix – 05/09/07
Terror cell captured in New Jersey – 05/09/07
A case for entrapment?
Did informant’s actions aid Fort Dix plotters? – 05/10/07
Informant speaks out
Fort Dix tipster shrugs off ‘hero’ title – 05/29/07
AP: Fort Dix tipster goes public – 05/29/07
Sometimes, someone has to speak up – 06/03/07
Agron Abdullahu charged
6 men indicted in alleged plot to attack Fort Dix – 06/06/07
S.J. terror suspects indicted – 06/06/07
Six men indicted in alleged Ft. Dix plot – 06/06/07
Plead not guilty??!
6 in Fort dix case plead not guilty – 06/15/07
Prosecutors ask for anonymous jury in For Dix 6 case – 07/09/07
Fort Dix Prosecutors seek anonymous jury – 07/10/07
No speedy trial! New trial date set.
Why won’t Fort Dix plot trial be speedy? It’s lost in translation – 08/10/07
Jury will be anonymous
About Faketerror June 6, 2007
Posted by Sultan of Ping in Faketerror.5 comments
‘Fake terror’
The men’s (Houston Taliban group) supporters have created a Web site and blog called “Houston Muslims Falsely Accused” at www.faketerror.com.
The site calls the four men “Muslims falsely arrested on make-believe terrorism charges to cause ‘fake terror.’ “
Qazi’s supporters in the courtroom included a representative of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the nation’s largest Muslim civil liberties group.
-Houston Chronicle
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Faketerror is supposedly founded to support 3 cousins they believe were improperly entrapped. It was set up and used by Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) members, some of whom are family members of Syed Maaz Shah, Shiraz Syed Qazi and Adnan Babar Mirza (as identified in reports from the Houston Chronicle Fawaz Qazi and Izzat Qazi are such relatives).
We found a possible group connection via the Houston Cricket Club that both Izzat Qazi (who commented in support of the accused in the Houston Chronicle) and Fawaz belong. We noticed Noman on the faketerror site as well. On Faketerror he calls himself Noman ‘Babar Mirza’. This seems suspect to us since ‘Babar Mirza’ is taken from Adnan ‘Babar Mirza’ who was one of the main Houston Taliban who was arrested that they are supporting. Here we see a Noman ‘Rizvi’ (same Noman maybe?) along side of Izzat and Fawaz. Noman on fake terror is one who was posting pics of people Faketerror would like to ‘dispose’ of. One who has no known connection with the case and one (Malik Mohammed) who is an FBI agent. Here is the list of names from the Houston Cricket team, and all three apparently related or close friends of three accused members of the Houston Taliban group:
The Faketerror site was initially kicked off by Muhammad Ayub who is the President ICNA Puget Sound Unit and Coordinator WhyIslam-West, NW Chapter.
Many violent and hateful remarks were indulged on this site at the incitement and the encouragement of this man.
Before they took his comments down we captured it from the front page of their website:
“1. Muhammad Ayub – January 28, 2007
Dear Houston Muslim Community, Peace be unto you.
I have attended the Friday hearing at the Federal court for Mr. Adnan Mirza and am quite familiar now with the facts of the case. Here in the USA, Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. However, On the basis of mere allegations, some folks, have condemned these kids publicly and completed their own pre-judicial trial in their minds. I don’t think that is damage control. It is evidence of an inferiority complex and extreme defensiveness.
I humbly request you to stand up for the entrapment case of the QAZI brothers. It is very straight-forward the 2 agents-provocateurs (names edited by Realterror due to an unfounded allegation) elicited remarks from kids around camp-fires on 6 different occasions. Absent the military person/undercover FBI agent, Mr. Malik, there would not have been any guns training at all.
I would like to discuss the details of the case on this blog and see how the community’s morale can be lifted. We can also discuss CAIR’s involvement, even if it is marginal.
I humbly request you to stand up for the entrapment case of the QAZI brothers. I beg you not to let the community down when we need you. Please also contact various other HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS.”
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Kids, Mr. Ayub?? The youngest was 19 and the oldest 33! Nice try but we don’t buy your lie.
This is Muhammad Ayub:
Click here to see the profile we are building on Muhammad Ayub.
We have found an important article linking the accused Adnan Babar Mirza, (and by association in news reports and in this context, Faketerror), to Saudi Wahabbists at Masjid el Farouq in Houston Texas. See this important article to view the connection: Masjid el Farouq – Wahabbi connection. The literature found at this Mosque was from Saudi Wahabbists which emphasized the obligatory nature of the purification that Jihad produces, whether it be overcoming external enemies or the inner self.
The Faketerror site hosted many members all but calling for the direct execution of random people whom they believed were responsible for the arrest of ICNA (and ICNA’s Whyislam) members.
Comments on the site are moderated. In the approved comments they released to the public, the site declared:
“25. Abu Jamal – March 4, 2007
That ICNA still lets this disgusting munafiq (hypocrite) in their organization and post on their boards shows they fear the oil-barons in the US government more than Allah. We want these people representing us? If they wont dispose of him then someone else will have to. The Islamic law regarding those who aid kuffar (non-Muslims) in fighting Muslims is very clear, their blood is not sacred.”
This is a similar comment Abu Jamal made on another forum called, Hizb-ut-Tahrir. Here is a snap of it. Thank you Kadaveri (our source, a moderator for Whyislam forums) for providing this to us:
Click here for more Abu Jamal quotes. Without doubt you will see similarities.
Interesting that Hizb ut-Tahrir and the ICNA people who founded faketerror are collaborating. Hizb ut-Tahrir is a group banned for inciting violence. (Click here) to read about Hizb ut-Tahrir. Hizb ut-Tahrir is also mentioned in the following New York Times article about the UK Terror Plot people. See: Clearer picture emerges of suspect in bomb plot.
Comments such as this were allowed to continue and indulged by the founders of the site until many complaints were lodged. All of the opposing views to their stated agenda were deleted immediately.
Remember, comments on the Faketerror site are now moderated and anyone with an opposing view have not been allowed to post. Many previous posts have been deleted, some we captured before their deletion. This is the number one complaint and people come to our blog instead to post their comments. So the posts on their site ARE their opinion and the opinion of their members and their disclaimer is meaningless.
This snap shows that the people associated with the Faketerror site (since only THEIR views are allowed on the site) are in line with the Houston Taliban group, who marketed www.jihadunspun.com on their Whyislam-TX site before it was taken down. They praise Jihadunspun’s reporting of ‘those who are doing the sacrifices some of us are afraid of’. Jihadunspun reports on suicide bombings and other acts of terror in hotspots around the globe, like Afghanistan and Iraq!
The following snaps are an example of one out of many posts which were deleted immediately for expressing an opposing non-violent view. This comment was on the site for one day before it was removed and Faketerror began moderating the comments regularly. The second is a telling indictment of Faketerror and people like them.
The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) is a nation wide Islamic organization that claims to renounce terrorism and support for terrorists. They have offices in the US and Canada. Whyislam is a subsidiary of ICNA whose goal is to convert people to Islam.
The faketerror website had posted pictures of individuals they wish to “dispose” of for supposedly assisting in the arrest of their 4 Houston members, Kobie Diallo Williams, 33, Adnan Babar Mirza, Shiraz Qazi and Maaz Shah, all whom are ICNA members (workers). According to Associated Press news reports, the officer who infiltrated the group was FBI agent Malik Mohammed. It appears that the group was openly recruiting and many more people knew of the groups activities which explains the initial random accusations of those at Faketerror.
“…the group was always looking for individuals who also wanted to take part in a jihad and that Shah was such a person.” – Houston Chronicle
Williams has pled guilty to conspiracy to join the Taliban and fight US forces after coming forward to take responsibility for his actions. The web site claims the four ICNA members were entrapped by the undercover officer.
“”He (Kobie Diallo Williams) came to a point when he knew what he was doing was wrong. He decided to step up and take responsibility knowing the repercussions are so serious. It could have been a lot worse had he not come forward,” Floyd [Williams lawyer] said.”
“Qazi, 29, who was in the US on a student visa was found guilty in February of unlawfully possessing a firearm. Mirza, 29, has pled innocent to conspiracy. Shah, 20, has pled innocent to illegal possession of a firearm by an alien.”
“In finding the defendant guilty, the jury rejected Shah’s claim that undercover officials working with the Houston Joint Terrorism Task Force impermissibly entrapped Shah.” -Houston Chronicle.
See the article by: Associated Press
Since some posters, perhaps friends or those who knew the people who appear to be wrongfully accused on the site, waged a complaint campaign, Faketerror has since been forced to remove the violent comments, including the comments from the ICNA WI scholar Muhammad Ayub, but still includes incitement against random some individuals. One we now know according to the trial news reports (Mr. Mohammed) to be an FBI agent. They also have since put up a disclaimer in response to our expose of their promotion of violence distancing the site from their real views.
Strangely, the site only focuses on 3 of the 4 suspects. No mention was made of the American Muslim (Kobie Diallo Williams) who rolled over on his friends (he was not even included on their site!) until after we posted this information on the faketerror blog, but there was ardent support for the Pakistani terrorist wannabes (Adnan Babar Mirza, Shiraz Syed Qazi and Syed maaz Shah, all cousins). “Things that make you go, ‘hmm…’”
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Sources:
Information on the movement these folks follow, click here: Islamic Circle of North America
Abu Jamal’s Finest June 6, 2007
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Abu Jamal quote. We highlighted his word in red. The links are from his post on the Hizb ut Tahrir forum which we took a snap of and presented here:
“We would like to express our deepest sympathies to the family who has lost their precious son….We pray that Almighty Allah grants them peace at this painful time and that their son is rewarded paradise.”
http://www.bmf.eu.com/news.php?nws=committed_soldier
This is the statement of the CEO of the Britishh “Muslim” forum regarding that “Muslim” traitor who got what he deserved when he was slain in Aghanistan for serving in the British army.
Someone put a damning post on there forum here exposing these sell-out traitors here
http://www.bmf.eu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1768#1768“
Abu Jamal – Hizb-ut-Tahrir
Abu Jamal quote. We highlighted his words in red:
“Interesting post on their discussion forum:
Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject:
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If you’ve got nothing to hide, then why delete the post which is exposing this mouth-piece group of the kaffir, and tackle it if you have the truth. Or do you know you have not got a hope in hell, pun intended.
Here it is again, this time may be you can be brave enough to try replying to it instead of fleeing from it.
Quote:
Sky said….the BMF were actually saying was that Jabron Hashmi should also be regarded as a Martyr in the sense of fighting for his country…. The word Martyr has many meanings for different countries and if British soldiers can be regarded as martyrs why can’t Jabron Hashmi!
The Islamic law (hum Shari) regarding those who aid kuffar in fighting Muslims is very clear, their blood is not sacred. But then again, the BMF which is the latest organisation to become the lackeys of the kuffar and work for their cause against Islam, this position should not be suprising.
The govern ment agent, Zareen (CEO well paid by the devil for her duties, bringing disgrace to her once-respected father in-law Haji Rahim as it becomes common knowledge of her services for the kuffar against Islam) said
“We would like to express our deepest sympathies to the family who has lost their precious son….We pray that Almighty Allah grants them peace at this painful time and that their son is rewarded paradise.”
http://www.bmf.eu.com/news.php?nws=committed_soldier
while the huge majority of muslims were cursing him and saying the opposite about the traitor.
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Mr Mr Ahmed did not say that he was regarded as a Shaheed which means dying for the cause of Allah (SWT) and Im sure if you asked the BMF or spoke to Mr Ahmed you would see that the term was used with reference to its meaning of dying for your country and not the islamic meaning of it which means for your faith.
To die for the cause of kufr is bot classified as martyrdom in any context -so enough word play. Besides, the Messnger (saw) of Allah said: “Anyone who calls for, fights for, or dies for Assabiya (Nationalism) is NOT one of us.
It was appropriate the guy was not representing the Islamic viewpoint as the organisation is one of the fronts of the West within the Ummahto fight Islam under the same guise of “Extremism” used by the kaffir west, Blair and Bush.
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There are so few people who in this day and age can claim to be shaheed as being murdered or killed due to their faith..
It would go against your terms of funding if you said the Muslims fighting and killing the kaffir invaders and occupiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are sheed when they are killed by the enemy. But it is easier to make excuses for that traitor and make him a martyr in one way or the other, as long as the grants are still rolling in….
Quote:
We therefore need to use the word in the context in which it applies today and for Britain it is used to die for your country which is a noble thing to do but doesn’t mean that you become shaheed or go to heaven…
Tell your CEO that.
Quote:
…If you were in that position what would you have said and what do you think the response might have been? increasing Islamophobia or Decreasing Islamophobia?
How about speaking the truth. “He who stays silent aboutthe tuth is a dumb shaytaan” Hadith.
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As for fighting against other Muslims please give this statement to the many muslims in the world who are kiling each other through sectarian violence.
Which is being stoked up by yur masters. There was none of this before they aggressed in our lands. And not to mention the numerous reports how much of these attacks are carried out by the Americans and British in order to divide and conquer the Muslims. Remeber those British soilders who were caught dressed in Arab clothes in south Iraq planting explosives – and their tanks had to break through the prison walls to free them, all captured on camers.
“O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliyâ’ (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliyâ’(friends, helpers, allies, intimates) to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliyâ’, then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allâh guides not those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrongdoers and unjust)” Quran Maida 51
Abu Jamal – Hizb-ut-Tahrir
Click for our compilation on Hizb ut-Tahrir